Legate of Mineta Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Blaze; Thanks for the offer! The issue is related to a certain component of .NET, although we still cannot understand why it behaves differently in Vista versus XP and 7. Unfortunately, the best workaround for the moment is to save often, so that you lose as little progress as possible. We are still actively investigating this, so I hope that we will discover the reason. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I went to play my saved game tonight and the last save I used was just...missing. I checked the saved game folder and I can see it there, but the game doesn't show it as an option to load. Is this what the Vista save game corruption thing does? Is it safe to assume this means my save is corrupt and lost forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Kipper; Very unfortunately, that is correct. What happens with the Vista save issue is that the save file is essentially cleared (if you look at the file size, you can see it is very small as compared to a healthy save.) We discovered where the issue lies (in a certain .NET component), but we haven't determined how to correct it, or why it only affects Vista users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Well, rats. And things were going so well, too. That'll teach me to stop playing before the year is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Kipper; Bah! I wish we had better news for you, but glad you are enjoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Okay. As we speak, I'm having this problem. The game is still running, but I'm unable to save. Is there any way to salvage this, or is my game doomed? Is there anything I can try, any information I can send to help diagnose things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Kipper; Unfortunately, no. Once it achieves that state, it's best to shut down and return to an uncorrupted save. We know where the issue lies, but not yet how to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panpiper Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 It has long been my habit with computer games to always have three separate save files for a game. I label them something like; A, B, & C. Once I have saved C, the next save will overwrite A, and then the next will overwrite B, etc.. This way if one is corrupted, I always have the other two. With this issue, I have simply learned to save anytime a day has been particularly noteworthy, typically every few days. As I do the save, I watch the save file listing, waiting to see it complete. As I watch (saving file B for instance) I say in my mind, "B on top...". I am waiting to see B on top of the listing. If the save worked, it will be visible sitting on top of the listing. If the save did 'not' work, the save (B in this case) will 'not' be sitting on top. In fact the save will have actually disappeared from the listing. Whereupon I exit the game and reload using the previous save which is still there, and continue playing and saving as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Panpiper; It's a good strategy, and definitely helps deal with save corruption, but I wish it weren't necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 It might not be related, but when attempting to use the "Cheat Mod" to get extra points to spend (I didn't feel like playing the entire year to get back to where I was before the save was corrupted for the umpteenth time.), I noticed that I was missing a few of the abilities/actions that I should have had AND I was unable to save on the first day. I don't think it's an issue with the mod itself, I've used it a few times, but save corruption happened regardless of whether I used it or not. So could the issue be caused by having too many actions/abilities or maybe corrupted ability info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Blaze; It doesn't seem to be too many actions/abilities, but corruption (or anything required trash collection) does appear to be the heart of the issue. We've also linked it to Abilities which change the Training Modifier. It's really mysterious as to why it only affects Vista. Thanks for the information, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnheart Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 And my save games just dissappeared interestingly it happend after I used Selctive focus now what do i need to do to stop it happening again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Burnheart; Unfortunately, for Vista, we do not yet have a solution. We have seen some evidence that seems to suggest that Actions/Abilities which involve the Training Modifier (for instance, Selective Focus) do cause the issue (sometimes), but how or why is still a riddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnheart Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Then i guess i'll just have to start a new game and avoid useing those kind of abilities, i just don't want to start games and everytime not be able to finish it because of this stupid problem, Well i'm sure you have all tried you best to fix it so i'll just have to cross my fingers and hope you find a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Burnheart; To date, all we've been able to do is isolate to a component of .NET. But we can't figure out why it works differently in Vista than in XP or 7. It's been a really frustrating problem. Sorry, and you may want to keep several redundant saves...just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnheart Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hmm what .NET component is it? If i've got it on my computer i'll remove it just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Burnheart; It's a part of trash collection. You definitely should not remove it. We've tried very carefully updating .NET, but the problem still lingers. ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalGerek Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Would it be possible to program the modifications to training required to advance in a way that does not impact the .NET system so VISTA users can enjoy the game, too? Giving up the use of spells and abilities which modify training would seem to me not using very powerful and important parts of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 KalGerek; We would love to do this- it's the foundation of the issue. Unfortunately, we have not yet found a solution. We continue to seek it, though, and if we can, it will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXcybeleXx Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I love this game. After finish playing two characters and moving on to my third, i JUST ran into this bug as well yesterday. Then I closed and restarted the game (building a new character) and i managed to save once right after the character creation. when i tried to save again (as backup) after the first week, it wouldn't save! Do you think it would be possible to not close the game, but finish the entire year, and see if it saves as autosave? has anyone done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Alexis; Others have tried it- and sometimes it works, but sometimes it does not. It's a frustrating gamble. The good news is that we have a new Patch coming out today which *might* improve the issue for Vista users. It doesn't look like it fully corrects it, but it may lower the odds of getting into that state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXcybeleXx Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 oh goody! i've been playing with multiple saves so far, and keeping fingers and toes crossed whenever i'm saving. hope this works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Alexis; Us too! This new Patch approaches the .NET component that is failing in Vista a slightly different way, so it *may* solve the problem. We certainly hope so, at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is this the Patch where you implement a bether Log for Save issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Schwarzbart; The log is also there, but we *think* we've moved passed it's necessity. It's just there in case, and only until the next Patch. Well, if things go according to plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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