TwoHeavens

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  1. I'd like to propose an 8th option. We have a team of very different Belles with very different, and tasty culinary styles... plus we have a ton of spam to get rid of. Get all the girls working together, and produce a massive feast. Barring that, choice one, it's Boise's job.
  2. Link to update 1. Being insane and discipline are not mutually exclusive. As the Marine Corps has proved over centuries (now) of combat engagements. 2. Gneisenau you wound me. My word is my bond, and paranoia is a survival mechanism... and is it really paranoia when people are indeed out to get you? Morgana thralls, intelligence agents from powers foreign or native causing trouble. I trust my walkure, myself and maybe other INPF Captains I've worked with who've shown themselves to be men and women of honor and integrity. INPF fleet command goes on the do not trust list. Especially INPF fleet command. Edit: Added Gneisenau's lovely portrait. Sorry things aren't pretty and centered but I don't get the full editor on my phone it seems.
  3. They didn't quite say that David. There's still plenty of room for treachery, and mixed crews mean agents won't stand out nearly as obviously as a British man trying to do a Brooklyn accent, or an IJN man attempting to sound like he was born in San Francisco, or worst of all, a Texan doing his whether best at a German accent. I also maintain that U-29 would back up my paranoia. One must consider the activities and habits of traitors if one is to catch, then keelhaul said traitors and I... Redacted: "Captain, we can't keelhaul traitors. It violates the Hague conventions and INPF naval policy." Shit. Hangings still on? Redacted: *checks document* "Yes." Right. Hangings it is, thank you. Carry on. Redacted: "Aye aye." Where was I? Right. The habits of traitors. One must consider the avenues of approach for a traitor, and the counter measures available, especially extra counter measures such as a Belle might possess that a mere human agent might not be able to account for so we can catch them, then hang them. Then toss them overboard for fish bait. Similar thoughts must be applied to infiltrating the Morgana. It wouldn't be safe for a human agent to approach unless we can learn to counter their enthralling... magic for lack of a better term, though U-29 may have my hide for it later. If it is not a technology, and not a learned skill, like say a spell, then it stands to reason it is inherent to the Morgana themselves. Can a Belle produce a similar effect? Perhaps a Belle does produce a similar effect already, but far more subtle, and passive. Something that boosts the efficiency and gallantry of the sailors aboard. If the latter is true, with practice a Belle might be able to produce an effect that feels to an outside observing Morgana the same as their enthrallment effect. Do a little redecorating and you have a infiltrator. I wouldn't trust it at close range, but it might be enough to manuver within the mists. Redacted: "If you try to bolt *anything* to my hull for an intelligence ploy I'm killing you and then myself."
  4. @Käpt'n Korky, I'm not sure what to say. I think the press relief explained what's going on pretty clearly, 2nd Fleet was and apparently shall be again a major command of the United States Navy. Fleet commands focus on specific regions for naval operations. Reactivating 2nd Fleet indicates the Navy wants to seriously focus on the North Atlantic specifically again.
  5. Option one, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle And I can't think of a better Belle to enjoy such an investigation with than U-29. We have a strange series of supernatural circumstances and sailor superstitions made flesh regularly walk the decks of our warships. If such things are true, what else might be that we have previously discarded? Besides. The Morgana almost certainly have Naval bases somewhere. Whether it's in the Azores or Avalon doesn't really matter when it comes down to the brass tacks of finding them and killing them. Excellent news about the battle engine. Not quite the level of fanfare and celebration Legate's "hint" had me expecting, but fantastic all the same. Here's hoping for some gameplay footage in the immediate future.
  6. A brilliant idea when you think about it really.
  7. Well the Irish war of independence and following civil war was finished barely a decade earlier calling it a sensitive discussion was... ah. Yeah. Uncomfortable to say the least.
  8. Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. I admit I had strange liquid coming out of my eyes by the end. A truly worthy victory cry.
  9. I'd have to look it up, but I believe it was mentioned in and around the Kongou interview. The sheer cost of dragging a warship ashore and near a government building would be insane. In the end I don't think political Belles will be something in the cards. For retirement I suppose that, assuming Belles remain post Morgana, would look much like it looks for warships now. The mothball fleet is the fate for most warships, which would probably end up looking like a cross with a retirement village. Some ships would be moved to various ports and rivers as museums just like now... but I worry about how they'd be treated by the governments of their homelands. Keeping warships afloat is expensive after all, and it's certainly not worth keeping every say Iowa class battleship in active service and updated like USS Wisconsin was/is.
  10. The real issue for A is the distance that a previous lore update gave us that Belles can go beyond their hulls is about 30ft. So while the Potomac may have the depth to park a destroyer on her, I don't think the Potomac ever comes within 30ft of the US Capital building. B. Probably not? That's the downside of being equipment as well as an officer. I'm sure they can be retired on their ship being decommissioned, but the form that would take... Hmm.
  11. Update Ah the only certainties in life. Number 3 please. I need Henley not confined to the brig for tax evasion. Err. Dry dock rather. It amuses me to note that Boise and I share several hobbies. Hmmm... might need to make sure she's on the acquisition list.
  12. In the United States at least, I can answer that from a nuts and bolts real world perspective. Might be different in the lore due to author fiat, but past you know, the entire premise, history hasn't changed all that much in the VB timeline. As I understand it Belles basically got hammered out into comparable legal status to commissioned naval officers in the United States Navy. This is important for a variety of reasons including giving them prisoner of war status in the event of capture by a foreign terrestrial power and placing them in the chain of command aboard themselves, and thus able to give lawful orders. The Articles of War and Articles of Governance of the Navy, what would eventually become the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), along with Federal law and War Department/Department of Defense directives restrict the political activities of commissioned officers and enlisted men of the United States Armed Forces, especially as a member of the active component of the military. (There's a little more stretch for National Guard and Reservists). So if the Belles are citizens they could indeed run for office provided that... A. They can actually get to their appointed place of duty, be it a state seat of government or the US Congress building in Washington D.C. B. They have been either struck from the Naval List and decommissioned or possibly transferred to the Naval Reserve. C. They have the explicit permission of the Secretary of War.
  13. Triumphant reveal eh? That sounds promising.
  14. You know, speaking of income... if the girls are officers technically... shouldn't they be drawing pay? Some kind of "allowance" or something for personal items for sake of their morale and comfort. They're ships yes but they're sapient beings too after all.
  15. Seems most of us are worried about Henley going down like a sandwich obsessed Capone.
  16. Nah. We do include free crayons with our doctrine books though. Snacks are good. Hey now that rabies thing was one time! The recruiting question's a good one too. I mean... sure it's a nice idea to let anyone and his cousin volunteer, but it seems like it'd make sense to recruit from able seamen already in active service if at all possible, and it seems likely that such recruiting will be going through INPF member navies any way. We know that the ships and their captains still belong to their respective navies. Barring an odd situation like in Scootia's Echoes of Jutland story where revived Kaiserliche Marine warships end up with primarily British crews because said ships hulks were in Royal Navy possession on revival, and their actual parent navy, and indeed nation, doesn't quite exist any more, you can assume that the navies in question want their crews on their ships. Which would go back to that security thing I mentioned. Training wise... I can't see there not being something of an INPF boot camp, probably run in each country by native and select international INPF personnel, followed by a lot of training as crews on the ships themselves. To say nothing of OCS. Any random schmuck can get picked by a Belle. Making said schmuck a naval officer capable of fighting a warship, no matter how much a Belle might help, would need to be refined to an art form then compressed to as little time as humanly possible so as to get Captain and Belle into the active fleet ASAP. I imagine certain nations will want to ensure the political reliability and loyalty of said new Captain as well outside of the INPF curriculum. Not plugging Nel and I's forthcoming OCS series at all there.
  17. *To beat Rocky or some other American sailor/groundling to the punch, while ensuring this doesn't potentially end up transmitted to Belfast, Mahan, etc, yes, we're required to be massive egotists as well. Albeit to a lesser degree than the modern Navy SEAL. We actually have to learn how to write books about ourselves on our own instead of getting training from the Navy and a offer of a book deal with Harper Collins on completing BUD/S.
  18. More generally let's open Welly's question up a bit. There's lots that goes into the international question for a Walküre and her captain. Namely what kind of chaos does it cause when a Walküre from nation X selects a Captain from nation Y? Do INPF crews stay more or less the same as they would have sailed with from their original home port? Or is it all volunteers? And if so, what's the population mix on a given ship like? I assume most INPF members would want to keep their crews as close to original as humanly possible, but we face a rather inhuman enemy so volunteering a crew on behalf of themselves seems a bit unfair. I mean when you offer me the chance to spit in death's eye and fight whatever in the nine hells the Morgana are, with whatever guns, grit and steel my ship and any sailing with us can muster I'm all for it. However I'm a Marine and airman and both are by requirement, complete and utter madmen*. So I'm likely not the best example of the general population of any given warship's crew is what I'm trying to say. Further how would internal procedure change for a new Walküre who's selected a non-native captain? Security procedure is the most obvious issue, and is taken extremely seriously in the US Navy and Marine Corps, they haven't hanged any one for it recently, but I believe it's still an option should the need arise. A USN Walküre with an IJN captain now has a massive security risk aboard as commanding officer. Another decent reason to segregate Belles from the rest of the fleet come to think of it. When it comes to classified material does a Walküre ever run into a issue where loyalty to nation conflicts with loyalty to captain? And that can go both ways, the native Navy might be concealing something pertinent to the non-native captain that the Walküre's heard about or the captain might be pressing the Walküre for non-mission pertinent classified material. It would be nice to think that every individual called to INPF service does so with honorable intent and clean conscience, but one can't help but think that someone will take advantage for the sake of their own nation. Nominally that's probably mostly countered by the Walküre themselves. An extremely patriotic Walküre is probably unlikely to select a captain who lacks similar fervor for whatever their homeland might be.Then again, captain selection is still something of a mystery, leading to further mysteries like a Lance Corporal from Arizona who managed to get washed up on deck and was told to change uniforms...
  19. Don't worry Korky, it's alternate history, maybe Graf Zepplin will get to be something more than eventual Soviet target practice. As for this, Buzzards and Condors in the United States, while they might be classified as birds of prey are known primarily for their carrion eating habits. Modernly especially you are most likely to see one eating road kill. For combatants in the United States after a particularly grisly encounter what meat was left would almost certainly attract buzzards.Culturally they also have a further connection with death symbolism wise. The image of circling buzzards stalking a lone individual trying, and failing quite possibly, to survive the Sonoran desert while the buzzards orbit, content to wait for their meal to finish itself off is a common one in American cinema, television, literature, etc and is informed by real stories from the Westward Expansion. Similarly this attitude is expressed in various idioms like "buzzard bait". So for Lady Lex, the most logical mental connection culturally for a battlefield carrion eater would be the buzzard over the humble crow, which enjoys much better PR in most of the US than it seems to most other places. ---- Also worth noting one of Belfast's yeomen might have made a minor typo while putting the transcript of the meeting together. I'm reasonably certain Hiryuu-san meant morale here... "Perhaps they are lesser kami. The pilots are happy to think they have their favor, so it has a benefit for morality."
  20. Probably decided to run down to the Medd to pick up wine to share with everyone.
  21. Well I didn't know I could be more wildly desirous of Lady Ark, but here we are. Hiryuu and Lex were great too. One wonders what happened to Bearn though. Morgana carriers would probably be rare simply because they are rarely needed. The Morgana do not commit capital ships for small matters after all. So what I took away from this is that carrier to carrier and carrier fleet combat wise it's going to come down to tactics. No one as yet knows what those tactics are. Because we haven't killed enough of them to figure it out. For example if you told me to crush any and all traffic in the North Atlantic beyond Submarine patrols, if I had carrier task forces available to me, I'd use them. Center them as the heart of a formation of destroyers and cruisers to do the butcher's work with a sub tender to service at least one wolf pack, but we also know that Morgana capital ships aren't particularly common out of their mists. Why would carriers be any different? Unless they have or feel the need to commit serious tonnage, which as of right now in the late fall of '39 with "Guns that can pierce any armor and armor that can flatten any shell"... they probably aren't particularly concerned. Once the INPF gets mobilized however, that might change. All of that also leaves one of the questions I had unanswered though I don't believe it was perfectly covered by Scoot's question. Does an air dropped torpedo from a Belle carrier's planes have similar impact to any other form of Belle deployed ordnance? Logically we can say almost certainly yes otherwise carriers are just about worthless, but the devs have thrown a curve ball or two before. Which brings up the difference of what really changes with a belle. I also found Kagawa-san's theories regarding aircraft "belles" for lack of a better term to be... fascinating. As an airman myself I am of course inclined to believe him for the same reason any sailor worth his salt would give you a look like he's wondering if you're stupid if you asked him if ships had a spirit to them, --- "If you put that abomination in your mouth, I swear to God I will sink you just to spare you the indignity of digesting it." Side note, what in the sweet mother of God's name is a lamb fry, and how is it terrible enough to turn the British palette against it? Update: I am reliably informed that a lamb fry is the sheep equivalent of a Rocky Mountain Oyster. (deep fried bull testicles). Ew. Or perhaps the right reaction is ram in this case... --- "Kanchou. O hisashiburi desu ne. We are in the company of madwomen." A given considering the old saying about mad dogs and Englishmen. Though Lex might not appreciate the canine comparison.
  22. I think lots of people in a fleet with Chiyoda benefit from this. If she's focused on a miniature course it lessens the chance of stray golf balls impacting one's super structure when she's practicing driving... Hard to pick here. Three is right out, no need to point out the obvious to Chiyoda, be better to offer assistance for her undoubtedly Belle crazy plan to return the favor to Exeter, who, in her efforts to make friends with the Japanese, should really have looked into the cultural similarities between how they treat gifts and how certain European cultures treat gifts. The gift cycle is important as is keeping it in balance. Note to self, hint to Chiyoda that I'd like to taste her cooking to angle for a home made bento. One also wonders where Exeter's getting the money for all this, but that's a question for the quartermaster and paymaster. Back to point it could also be amusing to sweat Exeter just a bit about her initial gift to the Captain, but that would probably result in her doing something even more over the top, and I don't want to impede my flagship too much. So, that leaves but one option. If you can't beat them, join them. After all... "What man can pretend to know the riddle of a woman's mind?" Option 1 if you will. My lance Sancho, and perhaps some wine.
  23. I think Korky's wild speculation is in the right direction, and after brief review concur. Number one please. And a cigar. I love it when a plan comes together.