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  1. USS Sculpin (SS-191) was hard confirmed as active and engaging Morgana forces encroaching on the salvage site of USS Squalus (SS-192), and HMS Vampire (D68) was all but confirmed in the latest update.
  2. We've discussed Derfflinger in particular in rather extensive detail if you read back Scoot, the general issue with Derfflinger as we've determined it, is that she's not in commission. Squalus and Thetis both are, which is why they can manifest a Belle. The Belles probably can't give us a firm conclusion either way since "they" wouldn't know one way or another, and I think it's doubtful we'll get an OOC lore discussion on something like that, much as we all desire it. (Maybe a live stream or something. Community round table. Something. You know maybe?)
  3. Damn. Well as long as they have it down there I suppose.
  4. Yes, let's hear about what trouble the Belles are up to for Valentine's Day. Such a crass commercialization of love... now where did pick up slip for that bouquet of roses go...
  5. Captain Heavens is hoping that Akagi is as interesting as the other members of the Kido Butai we've met so far. And has fox ears but that's a given and entirely besides the point. As interesting and diverse as Kaga and Hiryuu have been I can only imagine the other IJN Fleet Carrier Belles will be equally interesting. Perhaps I shouldn't get my hopes up, but I'm already doing it so it's a little too later for that.
  6. Heh, hey now Korky, you're poaching Nell and I's INPF OCS program. That educational work belongs to the USS Recruit and any volunteer training ships from the international force.
  7. I enjoy aggressive, over the top nut cases like Kaga, but I will admit that her comments on the Panay incident stuck in my craw a bit. Like Cat said, not just committing war crimes, but certainly feeling no remorse over them. I'm now wondering if Kaga's just a loud mouth. And not so much the staunch Imperialist she makes herself out to be. To admit remorse for the Panay incident is to admit fault or imperfection in her flight group and herself, so she pushes hard and past it. To talk about her past, to talk about Amagi or Tosa, any aspirations she might had had as a battleship in anything but terms of strict dismissal admits a possible weakness or fault in herself. Especially making a first impression to an unknown, she can't show any throat. So she can't let Mahan bring the Panay incident up, it could wreck her tempo and leave her floundering for answer she probably doesn't even want to think about, much less give. And we know that when Mahan actually has a chance to lock onto something, she'll stay there till she gets an answer. Could such questions or objections from Mahan be concerning enough to her pride that it set her entire tempo for the interview? Sure she wants to show the Captain (Us) that she's strong willed, aggressive, and zealous, exactly what she should be, but taking control like that also gives her the opportunity to avoid or gloss over certain subjects. For example her heritage and actions of her pilots that were less than honorable. If she's asked those questions, she has to ask them of herself, and that can bring the whole thing tumbling down. * What I just took two paragraphs to say is that she comes off on a second, then third reading, as strikingly insecure. Like she's trying to cover something up with outrageous behavior and setting the pace to her own satisfaction. It will be interesting to interact with her in game see how much of this wool gathering is arresting on her flight deck so to speak. Is she squicky? No. Not right now any way. I don't consider I-8 squicky either... in the end a machine is a tool, in the hands of good men, they will perform just actions, and assist their crews in the same. In the hands of evil, or worse, the apathetic, they can commit untold atrocities. Such is the potential of the human race. Even Belles aren't much different from their sleeping sisters in this regard. Belles can advise, cajole, interpret creatively, but in the end they obey orders. Guided by human will. So for me, they (Belles with atrocities or more directly dubious behaviors like a certain yellow eyed German warship.) start from zero. As of these interviews however... of the two, Kaga's in more questionable water, and I'll leave judgement until I find her in game and let her condemn herself with her own voice. The fact that there's so much contention over a single line of her dialogue (albeit a line with *very* significant impact) proves that she is, good or evil, redeemable or lost, damn well written, so a solid Bravo Zulu to the writer responsible. *I had a sudden brain wave but didn't want to restructure the entire post to accommodate it. Cat's comment about leading from the bottom might actually be even more on the nose than we might have suspected, not just in the case of His Imperial Majesty, but in the case of Kaga as well. I could see it being very possible that Kaga's currently "along for the ride" almost as much as when she was sleeping. How do you bully a Belle into going along with you? How do you bully an Emperor? If that's the case than the show here isn't just for (Us).
  8. I think you should actually be angrier than that, I took that comment as the most petulant kind of mockery.
  9. Update #129 Another cocky, even arrogant high speed, low drag, fighting spirit to make gods duck for cover IJN Bellle? You'll be shocked to know I approve, even if I don't like her ragging excessively on Mahan. I think my brief editorializing in the title of this thread sums up my feelings on the post itself. Pass a thanks on to the rest of the team for us Legate, much appreciated.
  10. ....I'd pay money for that interview series. I'm not sure when Nürnberg became endearing to me, but she's an amusing brand of crazy and matching her up with a variety of Belles promises to be highly amusing. Shit Nürnberg and Hood would be an awesome Belle duo.
  11. Yeah I think that sentiment has been fairly universal every time it's come up in the last eight to ten months or so, here and on Discord. No one wants the entire box of chocolates. It's just been awhile since we had a chocolate and we're feeling a bit peckish.
  12. Absolutely. Kaga showed up, may as well give her some more spotlight! Might as well do Z10 while we're at it.
  13. Sure I can appreciate surprises, appreciate them quite a lot even, but we're also heading towards the three year anniversary of this kickstarter at flank speed.There's a certain amount of charm that wears off in terms of surprises. Especially considering we're heading towards the second year anniversary of the end of the Captain's Association interview series, fresh blood in the water with some actual meat attached to it would certainly be appreciated by this shark. Throw a devildog a bone is all I'm saying.
  14. KS Update 128 Well I can say three things. 1. Project 33 is definitely my kind of Belle. (I too thought she was being asked stupid questions for one, because gods know I've had questions like that at interviews before, and I would very much enjoy dining with her choice of dinner guest for two. The list goes on. At length. Suffice to say it's love at first expression of irritation with people who waste her time. Plus such lovely martial zeal.) 2. The redacted games have officially gotten old for me. Really they were old a year ago. If the game had launched on time, on target it would have been an amusing bit of fun, but as this stage I'm simply unamused and would appreciate if we could pack it in already. I'm not saying they should reveal the whole cast or anything, but if you're going to put a Belle up... Give her some proper spot light. It's been long enough for the Belles and for the fan base hasn't it? 3. However since we have a Belle to identify... J'Accuse! The Tenryuu class light cruisers were developed under the C-33 heading by the Imperial Japanese Navy, which makes them literally Project 33*. Their commissioning in 1919** puts them in excellent position to have met their true senpais such as HIJMS Mikasa, be well acquainted with their age peers, and their position/design as destroyer flotilla leaders would put them in a leadership and instructor role for new and younger Belles. I... am leaning towards this being Tatsuta for some reason. The letters give the impression as being from the big sister, but that is entirely in my head and is at best what engineers would call a WAG. *In the listing I found, there is two other project 33s. The first is project S-33, the Junsen submarine mod III, aka I-7 and her sister I-8. I don't think they're likely the Belle(s) in question for a variety of reasons, but she doesn't... talk like any of the Submarines we've seen so far. The sisters were also commissioned in 1937 and 1938, which would make them "young" and not in any position to speak with the voice of experience to their kouhais. This could be wildly off base, but barring a closer reading of the article when I am not sleep deprived, I am satisfied with my conclusions as they stand. The last project 33 is project J-33, which is the Kazahaya class oiler. For one, it's a fleet oiler. For two, there's only one of her, and for three she commissioned in 1943, and since it's still 1939 as it has been for the last several years, I think we can safely rule out a time traveling fleet oiler. **There are conflicting commissioning dates for the Tenryuu class, also muddled with "completion" dates. Some sources say 1918 for date of commission, others 1919. It's splitting rather fine hairs in the grand scheme of things.
  15. What's strange is that she still bothered to offer up the Irish Gaelic name for Father Christmas. Not a particular Irish parallel mind you, but quite literally Santa Clause/St. Nicholas in the wider Christian sense. So when Belfast says... What she's actually saying is "Santa Claus is kinda bullshit. But I totally believe in Santa Claus!" Daidí na Nollag is just straight up Father Christmas not an adapted Irish native tradition of any kind. So sure if you want to split hairs it's the thin European original in bishop's robes who's half saint and half Odin instead of the chubby guy who has a long term advertising contract with Coca Cola but I'm really not sure what she's trying to show off there. Though it's fairly novel to me that a Unionist is speaking Gaelic at all... not that I'm surprised she's a Unionist, but I'm not going to try open that can of worms without a good bottle of Tully on hand and me little Armalite nearby for when the agents of the Crown in this other benighted piece of territory occupied by the British oppressors who's minions will inevitably come for me once they detect someone making pro rebel comments on the internet. ...I'm sure this head would be better off without the bloody crown, so here it's up the rebels, get back our Teddy's head, her face and tail are all her own but her brains are foreign lead!
  16. Considering Amagi was never completed, never commissioned and they started scrapping her after the Great Kanto earthquake rendered her unserviceable in spring of 1924, in a war economy where resources like steel were at a premium, I doubt there was much left by 1939. I hate to say it Laz but, as a great chief medical officer once said, she's dead Jim. If it was within human possibility to save Amagi, she would already be in service with the Kido Butai. I'm sure she'd be happy to swing in for the fight, but there has to be something for a Belle to manifest on in the first place. At least Derfflinger is still a ship, "lawn ornament" at Scapa or no. Of course the Unryu class aircraft carrier Amagi might make it into the game, but that's in the far flung future of 1944. Could that Amagi be saved? Probably. She was only capsized and was refloated without issue, and I find it doubtful she'd have been sitting in Kure without aircraft with the Morgana war still raging. As we have said. A ship is a valuable strategic resource. A ship with a Belle is valuable beyond measure.
  17. Honestly Laz, if you want to ask if they can resurrect the SMS Derfflinger just ask them.
  18. I sincerely doubt anyone here is at risk of such a horrible fate.
  19. Firstly happy new year everyone. Next, I believe Ensign Fif's question has pretty much been answered. A ship who's just had her keel laid probably can't manifest a Belle. Commissioning has been determined by the detectives in this thread, and indicated in some of the lore updates, to be rather critical to manifesting, followed by exposure to Morgana mists, which is much harder when one is sitting in dry dock. As to ships not carrying arms, we have more or less proved who killed Cock Robin, and the identity of our mysterious hostess, and even if we are wrong with our specific deduction, we can safely say she is certainly not what you'd call a warship (I here define warship as a purpose built vessel designed specifically for engaging and destroying the enemy by naval gunfire, torpedo, aircraft dropped munitions, or similar means) even if she was given some AAA to defend herself from aerial attack as part of her wartime service. Ms. Rawalpindi, wildly popular with the Captain's Association as she might be is likely another example of this, as she was built and born a merchantman and retroactively armed however lightly by the Royal Navy. So all signs point to yes... provided said ship can survive an encounter with the Morgana, which seems to be quite the feat for a lightly armed or unarmed vessel, but one that we can safely sumise has happened. Not that I personally would stop resisting the enemy if I was down to a rifle (the kind carried by a single person, not the ladies naval rifles) and foul language, but I am also an obstinate bastard and I'm lead to understand that such actions are not normal human behavior.
  20. So I apparently failed to post this change like I thought I had... I ended up adding to my letter, I updated the post, but wanted to post the whole thing on it's own because I'm just pleased with it over all. To sailors and Marines, Belles didn't need to manifest for us to know they were there. It was, and is, an article of faith, we have evidence of this faith of sailors and their amphibian counterparts dating back to Greek Tiremes if not earlier still. Superstition drives the heart and soul of the sailor and the Marine and always has. Our ships are everything to us, and we love them as such. Shelter, sword and shield, a mental haven as the ramp drops on an assault craft, where you return, either in good spirits, flush with the twin thrills of victory and survival against all odds, or to be healed, or shattered, to be conveyed home or to be passed into the sea to eternal rest. For many of us over the centuries, those same ships became our place of final rest themselves. How could such creations, more than the sum of their parts, be it wood, iron or steel, not have something more to them than just being a mere object? So strong is this emotion, so strong is this conviction, this article of faith, that... it simply is. Civilians and the land bound do not question this faith, they see it as normal, and how we refer to ships and aircraft in most if not all world languages that have words for such things reflect that faith. Not mere objects. Her. She, not it. It's not that ships are just gendered in the same way certain words are gendered in say the romance languages either. They are referred to like one would refer to a person. In tones ranging from friend, to lover, to trying to start a bar fight during a particularly frustrating maintenance task. This linguistic reflection is subtle, but I believe because of it, many people who come into contact with a ship knows that there's something special in them. That a heart beats within her engines. The crews of the USS Constitution were men of courage and honor, but the ship herself is famous, a legend in her own right, lauded and beloved by every American who has heard her name. How could there not be something more there than just some wood and iron fittings? So when the Belles rose, we may have been surprised because it happened, but if any man or woman aboard was worth their salt, they weren't surprised that the Belles were there, because all that happened is that our faith was vindicated. So it appeals to an old salt like me to ask a superstition about their own superstitions. Belfast for example may well carry some belief or sense of the old Fae lore of our mutual home island with her. Respectfully submitted, T. Heavens, USMC Commanding ------ Regarding adoption, seems a bit odd with the Belles we've met so far. Even the "childish" Belles tend to be depicted as older than Yukikaze from Kantai Collection but could be an interesting alternative mechanic to have available in parallel to the "marriage" mechanic most of the other games offer.
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