freespace2dotcom Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I have to ask.... Which one of you is a Kancolle fan? Cause... Wow. I did not expect this coming from you guys. I mean that. I'm shocked. In a good way. ... Well, that explains a heck of a lot, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidflame Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 You won't get sued right? I really want to see year 2 released in my life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Zero; Haha! No, even Kantai drew from earlier sources- Pixiv artists, Arpeggio of Blue Steel, and the like. Besides, Victory Belles is quite different in terms of the gameplay, story (well, it has one!), artwork, and so on. I don't think anyone from the Team is a Kancolle fan, though- it's cool, but not our style of game. VB, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CremePudding Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 On one hand I am inclined to support this if only because it's chickens. On the other hand this is so far away from my area of interest (WW tanks, anime girls personification of stuff, dating sim with nothing but anime girls). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Mmmmm. Puddings are delicious.... *blinks* Welcome back, CP! Whatever you choose, we're happy to see you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nautilus Posted April 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Keep a weather eye out for some cool updates and art work that we are putting together for you... some nautical awesomeness, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Oh, and here's a fun video review of the Kickstarter from some folks in Jakarta. They really got into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 So it was, at least on some extend, positively received. Consider me one step closer to having seen Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 So it was, at least on some extend, positively received. Consider me one step closer to having seen Everything. I think I see some black feathers on this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Wow, I'm kind of speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Your poor artist with the add of the new tier (s)he can work overtime to fix the tier pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Schwarzbart; Heh! You're right on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Congratulation for reaching $5k and so 1/6th of the minimum goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 - and quick too! Best of luck guys! It looks to be a pretty cool game. (... Not that I think you'll need the luck, as such, but you might get a bit more loot and more of those juicy random encounters!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Adrian; Welcome, and thanks for the luck! Schwarzbart; $5k, third day, not bad at all! But (much to our surprise) a lot of the fans are reacting negatively to the Tiers- they really, really, really want all Belles available, and none KS exclusive. Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 The bigger problem is whether it can be changed, at this point. Some people have already pledged, frankly, ludicrous amounts of money and they might not appreciate it if their obscene bribes "something" (I cannot think of a more flattering word...) are suddenly swiped from right under them. Incidentally, I'm still waiting for an answer on how many Belles are assigned to the Kickstarter-only nations, and whether they are also effectively exclusive because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I suggest you make this question about the Belle timed exclusivity via updates as not everyone will watch the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilette Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I thought he said 9 Belles would be exclusive rewards, while 121 would be available to all? I'm not surprised that people want ALL the Belles to be available, Pillars of Eternity has an elusive backer achievement, and people are STILL whining that it isn't fair. Achievements don't even do anything on Steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Very surprising to us, as when we back Kickstarters, we *like* exclusives. @Metis - I don't know if Nautilus saw your question or not, but there are 9 exclusive Belles to the KS, and 121 base game Belles. @Schwarzbart - We actually just finished reaching out to all Backers over $25- trying to get a sense directly about whether anyone would mind timed exclusivity. We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'm not surprised that people want ALL the Belles to be available, Pillars of Eternity has an elusive backer achievement, and people are STILL whining that it isn't fair. Achievements don't even do anything on Steam? I imagine that for most people it's that their patience for this arbitrary inability to 100% stuff has been expended already. Not to mention, it's just poor game design if you intentionally cannot get 100% for reasons completely outside the game itself. Fantastic marketing design, sure, but poor game design. @Metis - I don't know if Nautilus saw your question or not, but there are 9 exclusive Belles to the KS, and 121 base game Belles. And also, what, five or six exclusive nations? How-oh, here it is, finally: Your fleets are collected from over 120 unique Belles. Although you are loyal to one of the seven great naval powers of 1939, you can collect any Belle, from any Nation. As a German Captain, you can commission the vivacious USS New Orleans. As a Brit, you can woo the rough and tumble Parizhskaya Kommuna. And as an American, you can win the ferocious Takao to your side. Commanding a diverse fleet with unique personalities, abilities, and potentials is your best defense and offense in the greatest war the world has ever known. Don't know how that flew over my head three times . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Metis; I don't know, it doesn't feel arbitrary, at least to me- if you are helping us to produce the art and voice acting for the game at your expense, doesn't it seem just to give you something unique and cool for the help? So went the thinking, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 "These characters are not available to you because you didn't throw $600+ at our Kickstarter X days/weeks/months/years ago" does not feel arbitrary, at least from the perspective of your average joe who likely only discovered the game after the month-long Kickstarter was already over? In all likelihood, if the game exists to begin with, that's going to be the lion's share of the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Metis; See, I'm just not sure. At least for me, when I first enter a game, I'm not usually too concerned about things I may have missed. I guess I enjoy smelling the roses. But then...Academagia *is* my favorite game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 Few people try for 100% their first go-around and fewer still actually manage, but "things I may have missed" isn't the same as "things I know can never get by design". I know that from BCS' point of view, people pledging $600+ is a great thing. For the people that don't have that kind of money to throw around it's not fun to be denied something because they can't reasonably throw that kind of money around and/or didn't know about the offer until years after the fact. Yes, it's only 9 Belles out of 120+ or something, it's still a kick in the teeth for lack of clairvoyance and/or a degree of financial sense when the average person doesn't have half a grand to burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I tend to agree with metis. It's around as bad as the console company owners shutting down their online servers due to cost, causing quests to be lost forever. (Dragon quest IX was especially painful in that regard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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