Bullwinkle 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 I've spent some time training my familiar. He now has a bond of 4, with all subskill bonds at 4 as well. I don't seem to be able to increase his bond past this. When I Groom Familiar, it reports a success and an increase in the specific sub-bond level, but the actual value doesn't go up. At first I thought this was because of my Familiar Kinship skill, but that's at 6. Am I missing something? Also, am I correct in thinking you can't train a familiar's skill past his bond level? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schwarzbart 1,065 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 Bond is handled like a skill so at some point (depending on the Familiar Attributes) you need more the one skillpoint to increase the actual Subskill by 1 level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullwinkle 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 Schwarzbart, That doesn't seem to be what's happening here. Each substep says 0 of 1, and it stays that way no matter how many times I groom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legate of Mineta 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 Bullwinkle; Your Familiar Skills presently state what you would need (if you had them) to Train, and are not subject to correct reporting. This will be corrected in the future, however. For Bond, the way it works is that your Bond Sub-Skills can be Trained to 1 + your Bond Level. The Bond Sub-Skills might not be expanding because they need more than one Skill Step (it depends on your Familiar's Attributes.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullwinkle 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 Okay, I got it to move. The problem was, in fact, the inaccurate reporting. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legate of Mineta 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2010 Bullwinkle; No problem- hopefully soon that wrinkle will be ironed out. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andor 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2010 Bullwinkle; Your Familiar Skills presently state what you would need (if you had them) to Train, and are not subject to correct reporting. This will be corrected in the future, however. For Bond, the way it works is that your Bond Sub-Skills can be Trained to 1 + your Bond Level. The Bond Sub-Skills might not be expanding because they need more than one Skill Step (it depends on your Familiar's Attributes.) Ahh that explains a lot. I wasted many actions trying to train up a a capped familiar skill then, because I had no way to know that other than by reading it here. Also I too spent many actions trying to Groom Pamela (god only knows how) and yet never saw an increase in Bond skills. Is this a facet of Pamela not being a proper Familiar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legate of Mineta 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2010 Andor; Although it really is a good question as to how you would groom Pamela (some kind of ectoplasmic brush, maybe?), the reason you cannot increase her Bond Skills is because of Patch 7 (an unintended consequence of the filtering we put on Random Skills). You'll be able to increase your Bond once more in Patch 8. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites