Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I just have writen a mail to CJ suggesting to him to turn down the level of his adventures if he every introduce other new blood to Ars Magica as the Adventure we face right now looks to me more like something he should throw at his players after 1 year or so in a campaign that was run each weekend for a vew hours. At last I can't see how he ever can increase the threat level we have now. Maybe this Adventure was even writen with his curent other group in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'll reply when get home. I'm running two other sagas right now at the table: one is 54 years in and features a player character Primus of House Flambeau (they redirected the Fourth crusade preventing the Sack of Constantinople and rehomed the Cathars in the Balearics preventing the Albigensian Crusade) and one has magi just two years out of Gauntlet in the Provence Tribunal. Every saga differs greatly in tone but I'll explain what up to when get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wits Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I like the "threat level", in fact - I think it's nice that we have lots of obstacles that are insurmountable in the sense that we cannot "win" them but rather have to work around or with them. But this is, of course, a matter of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Started a new Thread where we can talk about the difficult level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Essentially though what I'm up to is this: I started out with the tension between you chaps having a high fantasy floating city covenant and my plan to tell a story about England in the 13th century first. By introducing you to the dangerous politics of Stonehenge first I hoped you would have more scope to plan and make allies and enemies -- all the covenants have plots secrets and mysteries, and as Stonehenge is in anarchy as far as the Order is concerned with Tribunals not having occurred for years I hoped to run a story about young outsiders thrown in to dramatic and dangerous events. That is very much my style -- and yes can be lethal, but so far the threat level has been quite low! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I think Schwarzbart is simply saying (which if he says I somewhat agree) that this is a bit much for the very first scenario for starting characters (as in just simple scope) and (my opinion) with mostly new players. I find it very story worthy, but my character really wants to get away from here. Mainly as she believes she has little to no chance to win against these odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yes I can understand that. However you have that option: you can fly back to the City of Jade and Ivory (that I have been designing and should post more on soon). After all Ramon can find it! Now you are magi you can return home and make labs. You know enough about the Stonehenge Tribunal now to make plans and interact if you wish to after all! And if you want to get involved in Edith's family secret you can: if not you can just wait till the city floats over the next hermetic tribunal region. Your choices drive the story on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 I have a question, is it possible to create pedro vim shield around the island (most likely a ritual or something else). Then using a creo vis ritual create a opening to twilight then with this, and considering we have gained control over the island. Drive the island through the portal. Drive in twilight for a bit protected by said pedro vim shield. Using the creo vis again or a pedro vis to make a opening to our world and drive out to a new location. High leveled stuff right there and costly at that. It'll be a dark day for our covenant when class decides to leave (remember we are close to becoming a winter covenant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Did I read that right? You want to hide our covenant inside twilight? PS: I think sending ONE person into Twilight alone is like lv 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Class plan is curent to stand trough this as long as he still can bear it but he is close to the point of snaping and leave everything and everyone behind. Beside that he fear that we stay away to long from the City of Ivory and Jade to ever find the way back. Ramon is at the point he absolut need to get his name cleared from what just happened with the Questor and so he have to go trough this. Beside that he have to keep a eye on Silas till he is back at the covenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Technically no as that wouldn't have the desired affect. The portal is a rip between our plane and either the plane of twilight or the plane of magic. Sending someone to twilight wouldn't have the desired effect as you don't have control over that. The idea behind this is to move great distances without being molested by hostile maguses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Class plan is curent to stand trough this as long as he still can bear it but he is close to the point of snaping and leave everything and everyone behind. Ramon is at the point he absolut need to get his name cleared from what just happened with the Questor and so he have to go trough this. Beside that he have to keep a eye on Silas. When both decide to leave, don't forget to make your grog and play as that The portal is a rip between our plane and either the plane of twilight or the plane of magic. We can ask the fairy to let us hide in their realm maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Then you use other Regios like Fearie or magic but for sure not Twilight with its extrem chance to never leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 My faerie character doesn't know he's a faerie thus is why you shouldn't meta-game. Also I don't know how we would keep the warping affects of the faerie plane at bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Then use the Magic Regios, Elemental Regios and what else there is but not the Twilight as once you enter this with your body I doubt there is any way back and our Cryamon wouldn't leave it at all except over theyr dead bodys. (Beside the effect on Bjornaer is probably also very final) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 My faerie character doesn't know he's a faerie thus is why you shouldn't meta-game. I don't really know much about fairy so I can't meta-game. I was thinking of Jonaquil of Merenita to get us there or something, but there's probably better solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 (I should mention Calpurnia and my other character are against this. This is mainly me being a insane little Criamon in mind.) Theoretically the Twilight plane is a magical plane as the most common way of entering is to misuse magic. As such a powerful enough pedro vim spell should cause a huge area of non magical space filled with nothing thus causing a worm hole/portal to the material/our realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 The City of Ivory & Jade is (Baruch learned in his apprenticeship) moving at 60 miles per 24 hours, in a seemingly random pattern, with no relation to windspeed or direction. As such it is currently within 240 miles of where you left it. And yes Twilight is theoretically part of, or somehow associated the Magic Realm -- but very few magi, even in legend, have explored the Magic Realm or know the hidden ways there. It is widely rumoured that Harco, domus magna of House Mercere knows some gates to the Magic Realm, but if so only Gifted Mercere are ever likely to be taught them. There are currently 15 Gifted Mercere in the Order of Hermes - as it happens one of them is with you cj x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Incidentally, who has the ability Code of Hermes? I shall check later. Because you are not in as much trouble as you think! cj x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 ...Silas... {better emote would be a dropped jaw} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Non of my Chars as I didn't know about what is important and what not at Char creation (and even the later finished Ramon is still a child of a player even now know extrem vew about this game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashofchaos Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Unless you renamed it order of hermes lore on my character sheet, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 We can always ask the NPC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj.23 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Code of Hermes and Order of Hermes Lore are different abilities. A Hermetic Crime must be 1. A breach of the Code, which you all swore to (or a breach of the local Peripheral Code that applies in this Tribunal) 2. Committed by a magus, or at their instigation 3. Be known by others and reported to the Tribunal via the Quaesitors with someone willing to bring the charge. No accuser, no crime. 4. Be then declared by Redcap to the offender 30 days before the Tribunal (or be brought before a special Quaesitorial tribunal composed of 7 I believe Queasitors) 5. Be found to be a crime and the guilty verdict passed by a majority of votes at a legally constituted Tribunal. As such any charges against you can not be legally be brought until 1221, 7 years from now, at the next Tribunal, and then it comes down to how people vote if you are guilty or not - if you are actually guilty of the crime is fairly irrelevant, though many magi vote with their conscience. You may be slain in the ACT of committing a High Hermetic Crime - but only while actually performing it, not 2 minutes afterwards! cj x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks for this overview. Btw I have send you a mail for some skill of Ramon you might want to bring into action for extra info even if he is not realy good in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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