Vieux chat Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 What's the point of research ? It doesn't seem to add to the skill nor add to exam results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 research topics at 10 gives you so things like Skill maximum +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux chat Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 that's all ? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Dont miss out that some Skills if you realy bring them to 11 (not with just some bonies) have other nice things. But yes Skillmax +1 is only interesting if you realy whant to focus but I read that some Research Topics also gives a Attribute +1 when you bring them to 10. Sadly Research Topics at 1-9 are only Lore to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux chat Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Lors is good, but research can be hard sometimes and I don't want to spend 10 actions for just one max skill. The attribute bonus is good, but 9 levels of lore is a bit sad (even if I like lore) Maybe research could help get better results at exam ? And half your research could enhance your max skill (so a skill could go up to 15 thanks to research) ? Or each research level would let you do additionnal rolls (if you have 3 levels of research in ambush and you have an ambush roll to do, you in fact roll 3 dice and keep the best) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I'll just casually stroll in here and note that Lores have a relatively useful function in Year 2, when you begin to apply what you know. And now I'll stroll out again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 The sad thing about this is so fare away as year 2 is in RL time now I am not sure if we realy whant to use the chars we creat at moment for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazerus Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Lors is good, but research can be hard sometimes and I don't want to spend 10 actions for just one max skill. The attribute bonus is good, but 9 levels of lore is a bit sad (even if I like lore) Maybe research could help get better results at exam ? And half your research could enhance your max skill (so a skill could go up to 15 thanks to research) ? Or each research level would let you do additionnal rolls (if you have 3 levels of research in ambush and you have an ambush roll to do, you in fact roll 3 dice and keep the best) ? Many of the most powerful and interesting actions, abilities, and phemes come from the 11th level of various skills; researching them is usually required to gain those interesting things. View research as similar to studying; you don't get much out of it apart from lore and a bonus at the end, but the bonus at the end is worth 10 actions. Minor rewards at research level 5 or something might be good incentives, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Today I Researched Dialectic to 10 in hope to increase the Skill Max for it because I haved 2 SS of it realy at 11 (increased theyr max) and Famous Dilemmas at 13 thanks to a Clique Member. Because Dialectic still was at 10 I thought I need to do the research but sadly I only got a +1 to a Attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazerus Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Today I Researched Dialectic to 10 in hope to increase the Skill Max for it because I haved 2 SS of it realy at 11 (increased theyr max) and Famous Dilemmas at 13 thanks to a Clique Member. Because Dialectic still was at 10 I thought I need to do the research but sadly I only got a +1 to a Attribute. In general, I have found that researching parent skills will almost never raise a skill maximum, as they themselves don't actually have maximums; only subskills do. Most subskill research, on the other hand, will raise skill maximums; but not all. In particular, History subskill research tends to give attribute bonuses; I'm not really sure about any others, but I'm sure they're out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draigh Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Research topics and their unlocks Here you can see what each does at lvl 10. There are still enough research topics unknown, feel free to research them and add it to the list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 Draigh could you link this page in the Wiki Start Page? Because it dont show up when you just search for Research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draigh Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 It's under General Topics, as it's only a single page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolf Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Don't discount getting a skill to level 11. There's a lot of nice rewards there, including attribute increases, special abilities and other fun stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89157Z Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I wonder what effect lores could possibly have. Hey, everyone. Let's speculate. Just how does one 'apply what one knows' with the lores as they look in Academagia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 In regard to the 'let's speculate' there might be several ways to apply lore directly. If you add more options to an event, example: Finesse/Incantation: That huge @specificplant@ think it can outsmart you? Blast it with lightning! Finesse/Incantation: That huge @specificplant@ think it can outsmart you? Blast it with fire! If you happen to remember what the @specificplant@ was vulnerable to you might get a bonus result... but gneh, seems like a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerV Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Is there a way to find out exactly what a specific research track does once I hit 10? (doesn't seem to show up as a passive ability/bonus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 It should have show it in the result page right after the information about you gaining rank 10 study/research points on that subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerV Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hmm, I don't think either one that I researched showed the bonus in results screen - maybe they're affecting skills I haven't learned yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Nah, you would get the new skill regardless. Which two did you research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerV Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Mastery Phemes & Euneycia's Haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Gunslinger; Euneycia's Haven is purely Lore. Mastery Phemes Expands the Maximum Level of Mastery Phemes- but if you do not have Mastery Phemes yet, this Effect may fail due to a limitation in the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89157Z Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 If you're researching Mastery Phemes, you should unlock the Mastery Phemes subskill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunslingerV Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 If you're researching Mastery Phemes, you should unlock the Mastery Phemes subskill... I agree, it doesn't make sense that I can research Mastery Phemes without unlocking the subskill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 It does make sense. Let's see what we can do in DLC 4, as a stop-gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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