mhv3 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Can we get a little how to on the mod tools? I figured you create mod, give name, point to mod base. But I'm not sure how to turn the mod into an .mdm file My guesses resulted in ( created Acedemagia.amo by doing transform to official content on the modbase. Impossible to publish mod. The basic official content of mod 'C:\Acedemagia\Acedemagia.amo' differs from c:\blah.amm' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 mhv3; The primary way to create a mod for Academagia is actually to load ModBase (Open Mod, under Files), and modify what you wish. When it comes time to create an .mdm, you'll want to go to Tools->Publish Mod. Once you begin a publish, by the way, reserve 6+ hours for it- it takes a very, very long while! You will need one other file (the AMO) in order to publish (and is the source of your errors), and that will be up on RapidShare this afternoon. Once you have this file, you can also create a new file directly from it, but it may be best to use ModBase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Ahh, So one more file missing. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 The Mod Toolset has been released, and can be found here: The Mod Base has been released and can be found here (RapidShare link): The Mod AMO has been released and can be found here (RapidShare link): You should get all 3 files, in order to mod for Academagia. You only strictly need the Toolset and the AMO, but it's best if you use the Base as a starting point for your Mods. First, a note of caution: you should never, ever, ever make changes to the AMO. If you do make a change to the AMO, it's best for you to delete it and download a new copy. The AMO is the reference content, and if you change it, any subsequent mods you create which are based on it will have a hard time being used. It's better not to even open it- just keep it off to the side for publishing (see below). To begin, open the Mod Tool tools and go to File -> Open Mod. Select Mod Base here, and you will be able to see the Academagia content, current to DLC 2. From here, you can make whatever changes you wish: adding, deleting or modifying any entity in the game. Probably the first change you will want to make is to go to File -> Properties and name your Mod. You want to name it something unique, or there may be problems when it comes time for your Players to enjoy your mod. Once you are complete with the changes that you have made and are ready to test/publish, shut down the Mod Tools and reopen. Then go to Tools -> Publish Mod. Here, you will first want to select your Mod (in this case, whatever you renamed Mod Base to), the AMO it is referenced from (in this case Academagia 1.0.0), and finally what you want to name your Mod. Once you have done so, give your computer lots of time (6+ hours), as it checks exhaustively your mod against the official content, and all the complex links between entities for changes. You may want to sleep during this time. When the publishing is complete you will have a brand new Mod to share with us. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with! As a general request: if you find typos or other errors and you choose to correct these in your Mod, please also keep a record of your changes so that we can incorporate them into the official content! Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Another thing. Is there a copy paste possible somehow. I'd like to say take Elegant Service, copy it then modify. Or make an action that does 3 of X. and just enter X once instead of 3 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 mhv3; Unfortunately, no- only text can be copy/pasted, and even then you have to be careful: Actors cannot be copy/pasted and must be re-created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentabulis Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 The RapidShare link to the Mod Base is down - says the 10 download limit was reached =) Thanks! Really looking forward to using the tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Tentabulis; Here's an alternate link: http://rapidshare.com/files/427541184/AcademagiaModBase.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89157Z Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Phew. This interface could use a tutorial. I don't see how it all hangs together. For instance, what separates the passive ability Wakefulness (which is always on) from the active ability Visit the Vault of Voices (which you must do manually)? The two appear very similar within the mod tools. In general, someone posting a tutorial on the functionality of the mod tools would be wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QnWslSolfege Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hmm...the Mod Base has been fixed, but the AMO has also reached its ten download limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 89157Z; I am not sure we'll be able to get a formal tutorial, unfortunately, but I'll assist with questions as I can. What separates them is the Duration. If the Duration is 0 in an Ability, it's Passive. If it has a Duration of any value other than 0, it becomes Active. Solfege; We'll see if we can get another AMO download up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Alternate link for the AMO...again. http://rapidshare.com/files/427647564/AcademagiaAMOBase.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89157Z Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Torrenting, really. Put it on one of your dev boxes and leave the torrent up. I'm willing to provide some of the seeding too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 And the Base: http://rapidshare.com/files/427654155/AcademagiaModBase.zip ...and yes, we need to do this via torrents. Much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingai Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I tried to follow your instructions but when I want to name the mod (just before its supposed to check the mod against the official content) I get this error: "The version of database file '...Academagia 1.0.0.amo' is invalid. Please convert database before publishing." Is there something I'm doing wrong? Thanks for your help. -Shin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Shingai; Hmmm! That's curious- first things first, it sounds like you are describing the process to create a new mod from an AMO, not simply opening ModBase. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingai Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I wanted to try out the Mod Tool, so I opened Base and played around with it for a bit. After a while I wanted to see how the changes would affect the game so I tried to publish it by selecting my Mod and then the AMO. I didn't even open it before so I'm quite confused why I'm getting the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Shingai; Alright, so to clarify: 1) You opened Mod Base and changed a few things. 2) You then closed the Mod Tools and reopened them. 3) You navigated to Tools - Publish Mod and chose ModBase.amm and pressed 'Open'. 4) You then selected Academagia 1.0.0.amo and chose 'Open'. 5) Finally, you typed in the name of your Mod and chose 'Save'. ...if I understand correctly, you experienced the issue on step 5? By chance, did you close the Tools and reopen then (not loading the Mod?) I didn't put this step in the original guide, but it can be important. Let me know if that corrects the issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingai Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Yay! I think I didn't close the tools and reopen them. It worked after I replaced all of the mod tool files with the ones I still had in my download folder and tried it again. Thank you so much for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Shingai; Not at all! Thanks for prompting me to include that step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux chat Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Please a link for the AMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcat Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Well I got the modtool and the modbase, but not the AMO. Can I start messing about with the data, with just those two but not publish until I get the AMO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 bigcat; Correct- you only need the AMO when you are ready to publish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcat Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Thanks. Wow I'm trying to make a character called Harvey Rotter (hum wonder how my parody mind is working) and I'm getting a new appreciation for the work that went into these characters in your world. Everything is defined is classic object oriented fashion and my alleged mind is swimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 bigcat; Hahaha! Interesting name. You are right, there's a lot going on behind the scenes- have fun playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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