Legate of Mineta Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 That should be your next Event. Or, heaven help you, an Adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yet another real life event inspiring a question. I've had a DVD break on me on occasion, and I've finally gotten sick of it and am now archiving my (some would say obsessive) collection for safekeeping. How involved is mass copying? IE. Would you have to recast a spell every time you copied a page or book? And how often would one proofread the copy to make sure it was transcribed accurately? Any Other steps taken for that sort of thing? Especially when dealing with works authored by many people. Also, what is the state of copyright/patent laws? I imagine with patents the setting follows the oldschool "trade secret" rather than rely on some uninforcable law... And for copyrights, What is there to stop a person from copying people from simply copying (via magic or otherwise) published works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Freespace; You would have to recopy. There are 'pre-formed' Spells you can purchase, but they're rare and almost always custom made. No such thing as copyright law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ooh, pre-formed spells, eh? Can you be more specific about that? It sounds more like a one-time disposable item, than a spell, per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah, that's it exactly, Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 You see, whoever it was (that I can't remember) that asked about my name? It is shortened to "free" on occasion! Thanks legate! How would one make such a pre-formed spell? It sounds like it would fall under orthography, (or that which was once considered orthography..) placing a spell effect onto scroll or parchment? I take it that you aren't limited to simple copy spell-effects with this method? So what would be the primary use of this method be? Preparing spells in advance for quick release? (since you wouldn't have to draw any phemes..) Or are these special in some way that you wouldn't have to be a fully trained wizard to activate them? Edit: This also smells like a convienient Gates and Mastery law "Sidestep" similar to Orsi's Portal cloak... Any word on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 F; It's still known as Orthography, it's just not considered to be a distinct Pillar. You are right, though, it's captured on any surface. It has many purposes: preparing the spell in advance or allowing a non-wizard to use it. No word on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Cool! So why are they so rare then? Is there some stigma associated with them, or do wizards think making one beneath them? ..I must know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Well, they are expensive to make, are one-use, and are heavily custom. Some of them can be regarded as works of art, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ah, There we go into expenses again. What would make this kind of thing expensive? Simply the labor cost of a semi-rare trade? (magic) Or are there costs associated even with regular magic? "Eye of newt" type ingredients seem only to be necessary for potions, so as far as I can see, if one had a wand, (and even then a wand isn't strictly necessary..) then magic would be essentially free to a wizard, and the only cost therefore that I can see on these premade spells would be the cost of the mage's time, which naturally would go up as the custom made aspect was factored in. I suppose the "surface" cost of a sheet of paper would factor in, but even in this era I can't see that being any more than negligible. Or does its true cost lie in the fact that very few wizards in the current era practice orthography? As an Aranaz student I'd like to know if this is a viable full time career for my character, as this sounds right up my alley. A mage that knows all sorts of spells across the pillars, and capable of putting those in the hands of others? Whoo hoo! We've touched on the specialty of the other colleges to some degree, but this sounds like a major boon for the Aranaz students. Is this Aranaz "exclusive" like the Moridivus 2 familiar thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 It is an exclusive to Aranaz, yes. What makes Orthography expensive are the materials and the artisan labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 *bwahahaha!* I will be - rich - RICH - I tell you! Now, I am sorry for this, but as you may know Freespace, supply and demand. I am going to have to kill you. Nothing personal, just profits. ... *cough* right. Joking. I swear... I AM NOT GOING TO KILL HIM SO STOP POINTING THAT THING AT ME ... Sorry. Forget I said anything. bloody *mumbles* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah, haha, a joke... Right! I believe you! *Fabricate, Comets, Sky, Tails, Lightning, Intensity* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Oh that is a good question! When dueling, can you 'trace' your enemy with your.. wand, eyes, something-else-connected-to-the-spell to affect the fireball you just cast? As in, could I make a fireball follow someone if they made a run for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Our recent Negation of gravity, made me think of something. We know that magic can be used in many ways to achieve desired effects. Putting out a house fire, you can not only use water, but also restrict the air supply to the fire. Now, Obviously, a small Negation of gravity spell is quite different from an Incantation spell used to lift you, but what I want to ask is related to the theory of Negation. Would a Negation spell to disrupt either of these aforementioned spells be identical? I mean, is there a generic "Negate" spell which suits all purposes? Or is there such a spell modified by adding a pheme to counteract a specific effect, or are negation spells entirely unique... Which means that it would take a lot of practice and intuition to correctly negate any specific spell? Of course, I imagine that regardless of which case it is, I am quite sure the best Negation defense would be to prevent any given spell from taking effect at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Negation spells, to have their full effect, must be very specific. You can get away with general spells, though, for most things- it's just not the best or most efficient way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 With this in mind, in the later years (4 and 5) are you going to use pheme knowledge/awareness of the PC to influence whether some Negation spells (or any spells, really) succeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Free; Too early to tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Say, Legate, of all the Current students in the game, which one would be closest to my mindset on learning multiple pillars? (or even all of them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Hmm, there are probably a few good candidates. I'll ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evaporate Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 What does breaking the dueling circle do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Evaporate; It eliminates (or, in some cases, frees you, but not your opponent) from the rules of the Duel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Free; Here you go: "Lambert (learn whatever magic you may need to get into interesting places) and Flore (it's good to be able to defend yourself, which means a lot of Negation work and even some understanding of the totally illegal stuff)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoshi Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 What are the implications of breaking the duelling circle? Also why are Durand students the ones acting all un-noble? And now for something I thought of after playing Human Revolution. Augmentation! Or at least prosthetics. Say I loss my hand due to an illegal duel with CremePudding. Can I attach for example an arm of a puppet and join it to my body? Or any other limbs or bits? Weird yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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