dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Playing as Avila astrologer with real interest in all things related to math, I've managed to build up most of the skills (including all classes maxed) just a month or so after mid-term exams. And stopped going to classes at all. One-two detentions a week were a norm, but it would save far more days for research and adventures. And, out of blue, I've been suspended Three (!!!) weeks my activity looked like classes-detention-rest (rest in last 2 weeks). Now I think if it is worth it or not, time-wise. Ten wasted slots per week for classes vs. eleven free slots (plus eventual holidays). Maybe yes, maybe not, but fortunately it happened prior to end-term exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Personal I think it is not wort it to increase the class skills beside what you absolut must to get past the 50% / 100%. Then try to just skip class timeslots where you didn't get teached anything. As soon your tendency to get detention even after reloads get to high just complet stop skiping class at all for 3 week or so. This way you keep a clean record and so never get close to Hall Sessions (or how they called again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Alternatively, if you prefer playing a whole year in as few loads as possible, (I try for it all in one go) then I would recommend only skipping on the last week of the year. It's very VERY unlikely that you'll have to pay the penalty for it even if you get in trouble. Of course my character is more of an honor student and so tries for perfect attendance regardless, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 A quick note- there's a change coming to Detention, too, which will make it overall easier to Skip throughout the year, but which will make the odds of detention consistent throughout the game. If you savescum diligently enough, though, you can pretty much avoid detention throughout the whole year. There may be a good reason to attend your Classes, if you port to Y2, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 There may be a good reason to attend your Classes, if you port to Y2, though... This. It's why I don't bother with skipping. Though on that subject... Would an unfortunate sick day prevent the scenario which you speak of, Legate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Free; No, there's some tolerance for Skipping, as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Oh so you say my troubelsome students who prefer to skip class as much as posible without going into detention will have big problems in year 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 ATM, it looks like getting Detention, while three are already pending, leads to Suspension. I agree that current detention rules are very annoying. Few reasonable professors would punish bright students for doing research on the subject instead of sleeping during lectures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Schwarzbart; "Oh so you say my troubelsome students who prefer to skip class as much as posible without going into detention will have big problems in year 2? " No, not big problems at all. dustman; "Few reasonable professors would punish bright students for doing research on the subject instead of sleeping during lectures." Sadly, there are too few reasonable professors, even in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 dustman; "Few reasonable professors would punish bright students for doing research on the subject instead of sleeping during lectures." Sadly, there are too few reasonable professors, even in the real world. These days professors don't care if their students attend classes, if they can pass practicums and classes Unless we talk about natural sciences and experimental setups too costly for a private home, there's no need to attend a lecture/practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Sadly, the Regents of the Academagia have too strong a vested interest in class attendance. But, in Y2, you'll have some additional ways to use that time, more or less productively, according to your whims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 No, not big problems at all. So its a bunch of little problems, then, or rewards for the perfect attendance students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 A reward for near-perfect attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Oh ok then I wait till it is clear what reward this is bevore deciding if it is worth to not skip class Considering how powerfull my last chars turned out I doubt it will wort it ^^. OK OK I exploited a game bug and so they are fare beyond what usualy should be posible and thats also the reason why the Class skiping detention get overworked with the CP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Schwarzbart; If you are Skill focused, it's definitely not worth it. It does...something else. As you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Legate, how long time should we wait to get all these goodies? Playing this game anew after quite a break is a blast but some minor issues, like wasted time in classes after mid-term, or strange detentions, really bug me... Btw, current logic looks like students must be at classrooms, college halls or their private chambers. For being out of this circle they might get detentions, even if they are not involved in any illicit or questionable activities. Go dine in the city and you're punished, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 dustman; Mostly correct- it's not technically wrong to go into the city before curfew, but it's frowned upon. As to waiting- well, Y2 is being worked on as we speak, but it won't be ready soon. Towards the end of the year, we hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Good news, will be fresh again for a new run. If town visits are frown upon, what's wrong with the libraries on campus? If students are informed about locations during their legitimate studies it makes no sense to punish them for visiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 @dustman I personal see it that there a lot of Rules surounding the use of the librarys and the detection chance is actual more like that your broken one of the rules there or it looked like you did so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustman Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 @dustman I personal see it that there a lot of Rules surounding the use of the librarys and the detection chance is actual more like that your broken one of the rules there or it looked like you did so. Schwarzbart, atm it looks more like 'everything is prohibited unless said otherwise'. 'Everything' includes gyms, common grounds and parks at the campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 dustman; Essentially, what Schwarzbart said. Some Libraries are also off-limits to Students of your age, or require special permissions. Librarians can be touchy about their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 ...But the good news is that eventually you'll get a free pass to visit most of them. I suspect that I'll like the attendance reward, being an omnidisciplinarian and all. Especially if it means some novel ability or particularly some magical item. I doubt that at the end of Y1 any particular character is especially different from another, but at the end of Y2 we'll certainly see some major variations in the skills and abilities available to any given character. At Y5 I expect that we'll see lots and lots of varieties! That being said I'm really looking forward to seeing what this reward is! (Maybe it's the other prerequisite for extra classes! HAHAHA!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 "(Maybe it's the other prerequisite for extra classes! HAHAHA!)" No, that would be too cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freespace2dotcom Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Cruel, maybe, but I wouldn't care because I'd still qualify for extra classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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