mhv3 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Besides the built it it gets too hard to cast, is there a limit to the number of phemes, skill bonuses a single spell can do? Is there a limit on how much the spell can boost a skill? (I seemed like +9 was the limit when I tried earlier) I think that I succeeded in casting a spell and ended up not getting all the skill boosts that I tacked onto it. (I was using a test/cheat student at the time w/ 100 on stats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 mhv3; I would need to look at the Spell and the additional Phemes you used to cast it, but I don't recall there being a limit. There may be one, of course- '9' suggests that 1 digit only is the maximum increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Ok. I'll try it again and report with specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I was wrong. You can add a bunch, but adding phemes to spells sometimes doesn't take. I got a 9 anatomy pheme to boost anatomy 18. I cast Deep Breaths with Alteration 9 Between 9 Anatomy 9 resulting in Enchant Parent 1->10 Revision Parent 12 -> 21 Revision Methods 11-> 20 Revision Phemes 10 (unaltered) Revision Spells 8 -> 17 Theory of Revision 11 -> 20 but often adding phemes dissappear after saying confirm. I tried building Deep Breaths with Alteration 9 Between 9 Tangible 9 I found that the act of scrolling down to tangible would erase alteration and between from my spell. (if I scrolled back up before hitting confirm they would still be listed as in the spell, but they were not there when I hit the execute schedule brown button. I found I could get it if I added the 3. A and B would drop. I came back in to defining the spell and added alteration and between without scrolling down to tangible and all 3 stuck. The exact same thing happened when just trying to add 1 of each. Is adding to 3 subskills with a spell supposed to add to the parent? It doesn't seem to be above. So there is no max, but at least I have disappearing phemes. (further experiments let a spell with Alteration 9 and Restoration 9 give me a 30 revision, but I did have to re-add alteration) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 mhv3; Thanks! We'll see if we can close this behavior in Patch 5. If you Increase the Sub-Skills, the Parent Skill will Increase over the Duration, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Oh and Alteration says it increases Revision Spells by 2 but it only does by 1. Hmm, It did not increase the parent in the case above. I had 3 skills min 17 +9 spell bonus +2 revision passive from mastery should be 28 not 21. It is because phemes was being used as one of the 3 before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 mhv3; Thanks- we'll correct the Description in DLC 1. I'm not sure about the Parent Skills in the case above- we'll need to review. I will pm you for a save, and thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhv3 Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Sure. Something odd here. I tried doing it in Althetics a Deep Breaths with Accuracy 9 Muscle 9 boosted althetics way too much Athletics 9 -> 43! Archery 3->21 Compete 6 Running 11->14 Swim 6 Wrestling 6-> 15 and I'll send you the save soon as I upload it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 mhv3; Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumbles Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Just chiming in to say I also experience the pheme selection problem so it's not an isolated incident. If you back out and reselect them a zillion and one times you eventually get what you want. Really annoying, though. Glad I searched for this and looking forward to Patch 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Mumbles; Thanks! So far, it looks like we are on track for closing this one in Patch 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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