Wellington99 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 In the same vein as the Axis topic, this is for the major Allied powers (UK, USSR, USA, and *sigh* France ). Just stuff like Belle ideas and ships, and ideas and suggestions in general. Note that it isn't a discussion on political ideologies but just on belles and ships and whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 uhmm at the time of the first VB UdSSR and Germany where allies or I'm here wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifrein Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Not allies, per se, but they signed a nonaggression pact. The goal was to quickly take Poland at the cost of only keeping half each. However, as of June 22, 1941, Germany began their war against bolshevism and the pact was broken. In response, the USSR joined the allied powers and signed the lend-lease agreement to start handing Germany its arse on a platter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von_Lipstig Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Not allies, per se, but they signed a nonaggression pact. The goal was to quickly take Poland at the cost of only keeping half each. However, as of June 22, 1941, Germany began their war against bolshevism and the pact was broken. In response, the USSR joined the allied powers and signed the lend-lease agreement to start handing Germany its arse on a platter. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Not allies, per se, but they signed a nonaggression pact. The goal was to quickly take Poland at the cost of only keeping half each. However, as of June 22, 1941, Germany began their war against bolshevism and the pact was broken. In response, the USSR joined the allied powers and signed the lend-lease agreement to start handing Germany its arse on a platter.Yes but for VB this means it only becomes relevant for VB year 2 or 3 what probably will get a release a few years after the VB the Kickstarter was for. (Currently we talking about ~6 year between each sequel for the already released games from BCS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Schwarzbart; Â Yep, in '39 (and actually beyond) the USSR is considered a seperate Alliance. The Allies can help the Comintern, and vice versa, but their success in the War is tracked independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellington99 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Schwarzbart; Â Yep, in '39 (and actually beyond) the USSR is considered a seperate Alliance. The Allies can help the Comintern, and vice versa, but their success in the War is tracked independently. Ahh I'm so used to lumping the Soviets in with the allies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrYuriMom Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I'd argue the US doesn't bong either. Not only were they neutral, but they also were not members of the LoN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifrein Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 >_< how did I mess up this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Till the war against France (and even past this) the USSR was considered the bigger enemy compared to the German for the Allies if I remember the history right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyArby Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ahh I'm so used to lumping the Soviets in with the allies you're not the only one. I mean when I hear big three I still think Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin. I found up some people put De Gual instead of Stalin. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von_Lipstig Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 how did I mess up this time? -non-aggression pact --extensive, USSR-favored trade treaty --demarcation of influence zones in Europe --Poland as icing on the cake  -22.06 --pact *suddenly* broken --LL was started before it was agreed upon http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/LendL.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifrein Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 -non-aggression pact --extensive, USSR-favored trade treaty --demarcation of influence zones in Europe --Poland as icing on the cake  -22.06 --pact *suddenly* broken --LL was started before it was agreed upon http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/LendL.html I'm learning things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyArby Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I'd argue the US doesn't bong either. Not only were they neutral, but they also were not members of the LoN. but then that would only leave France and the UK. As far as friendships go that's a pretty turbulent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrYuriMom Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 And Germany abd Italy aren't? Â Remember the Japanese didn't sign the axis treaty until 1940. Right now the allies and axis are just two each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyArby Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 And Germany abd Italy aren't? Â Remember the Japanese didn't sign the axis treaty until 1940. Right now the allies and axis are just two each. go to their forum and tell them that. Unlike us they aren't arguing about who was actually in the axis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellington99 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Lol already more posts than the axis and it's all arguing who is and isn't in the Allies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 W99; Â One more! In '39 the US are definitely not in the Allies- as DYM they also aren't part of the LoN. Not that that stopped anyone (including Germany & Italy) from participating in the Neutrality Patrol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellington99 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 W99; Â One more! In '39 the US are definitely not in the Allies- as DYM they also aren't part of the LoN. Not that that stopped anyone (including Germany & Italy) from participating in the Neutrality Patrol. Sheeeeeet. Welp so just UK and France then. So just the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrYuriMom Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ziinnnggg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 BUUURRRRN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyArby Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 is there actually any french captains here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrYuriMom Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Well there are enough Surcouf fans to land an interview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellington99 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I'm English but I love Surcouf. 203mm heavy cruiser guns on a sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifrein Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I'm English but I love Surcouf. 203mm heavy cruiser guns on a sub Which is amusing, but like submarine carriers, is by no means practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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