Rhialto Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 In several of my games, my characters have gained lore, phemes, etc., from classes in a way that suggests that they are learning subskills - even after those characters have learned every level of every subskill of the skill that the class focuses upon. Is there a list of what non-class skill skills classes teach once charcacters have learned all that they can learn within a class's associated skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 yes all class teach some points in subskill outside of the class skill it self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Ups you wanted to know if there is a info about what is thought in the class. - for my class fix mod there is a libreoffice table (.ods) that I put in my public mods file but that is including the changes I made. - I think around the time I created this mod we also had a topic where we did go into the details what is thought during class but I can't find it right now. (Edit found it but have no good info for what class teach what skills) - Unless there was a change you also can look into it your self using the mod tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhialto Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Schwarzbart: I am asking about the unmodded game (with the latest official patch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 According to the Legate they never changed what is thought in class! So you could go backwards using my table and substract changes I named in the forum thread or check the numbers your self using any Mod Base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhialto Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Schwarzbart: Your information only deals with classes' teaching their own skills. My question is about which classes teach subskills from other skills, and if so, what these skills are. @Legate of Mineta, @Metis: could either of you help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 ????serious you not even took a look at the LibreOffice table from me or in the ModTools or you would never make such a comment!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 Lets i.e. go over Arithmetic Class my Table have listed for Arithmetic: Accounting 1 Administration 1 Application of Arithmetic 13 Cryptology 1 Famous Prose 1 First Principle 1 Identities of Arithmetic 13 Logic 2 Memorization 4 Properties of Arithmetic 15 Puzzles 1 Reason 4 Theory of Arithmetic 15 Theory of Astrology 1 After check with the Forum Thread of my mods I didn't change Arithmetic so that should be the numbers from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhialto Posted April 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 @Schwarzbart: My apologies, but looking through the non-modding thread and the modding thread that you linked to, I cannot find a LibreOffice file; that having been said, the information that you quote seems very useful. Could you upload it here? 14 minutes ago, Schwarzbart said: Lets i.e. go over Arithmetic Class my Table have listed for Arithmetic: Accounting 1 Administration 1 Application of Arithmetic 13 Cryptology 1 Famous Prose 1 First Principle 1 Identities of Arithmetic 13 Logic 2 Memorization 4 Properties of Arithmetic 15 Puzzles 1 Reason 4 Theory of Arithmetic 15 Theory of Astrology 1 After check with the Forum Thread of my mods I didn't change Arithmetic so that should be the numbers from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 its part of the minimods file https://mega.nz/#!BhNCXC6L!lqX9so629-c0aklqA_T5JD7ozpKkuvpuhq3qPCXaV00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 The file you want from the zip archive is called Class_mod.ods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metis Posted April 14, 2019 Report Share Posted April 14, 2019 *Digs through old .txt files* Oh hey, I do still got it. So Y1 classes teach the following: Spoiler Arithmetic - 73 -Accounting -Administration -Applications of Arithmetic (×13) -Cryptology -Famous Prose -First Principles -Identities of Arithmetic (×13) -Logic (×2) -Memorization (×4) -Properties of Arithmetic (×15) -Puzzles -Reason (×4) -Theory of Arithmetic (×15) -Theory of Astrology 01. Amanda Kiffer Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Asmita Tidar Avgust Kostrodyrets 05. Basia Rydz Cante Caviti Caspar Pfeuffer Catherine Chard Cirillo Laziosi 10. Cordelia Troublepot Corradin d'Alfi Courtenay de Surval Eliana Carosi Emilia Strolin 15. Everwine von Zoedorf Flore Yveuillet Herbert Downes Joana Lio y Rossollo Llarina de Avuel 20. Louise Kandinsky Magalda Quaranta Magsa Nembo Malacresta Vercesi Marc Sury 25. Neso Ulleri Olivia Solari Philip Hauck Philippe Marchant Prudence Cossins 30. Reitz von Lutersee Rixenda la Serena Rui da Casga Sheary Warrington Vincent Eins 35. Vincent Warrender Vuillaume Eparvier --- Astrology - 74 -Alchemical Tools (×2) -Cartography -Clockwork (×2) -Comets (×2) -Courtly Fashion -Famous Battles -Geometric Laws -Glamour Phemes -Glamour Spells (×3) -Moons (×15) -Navigation -Observation -Planets (×13) -Stars (×15) -The Early Empire -Theology -Theory of Astrology (×13) 01. Aaran Ledale Ana Flavia Bessa Asmita Tidar Ausdauer Mollers 05. Avgust Kostrodyrets Beatrix von Wetgen Cinzia Ammacapani Cosetta Re Courtenay de Surval 10. Cyrus Dawes Eduard Solov'ev Emilia Picotti Gwendy Zuyder Irene Oxina 15. Katja Quinnecht Malacresta Vercesi Neso Ulleri Neta Xemutre Olivia Solari 20. Oriabel Sidot Philip Hauck Philippe Marchant Tabin Furenzti Uliva Valaresso 25. Vrenelle Bonvin --- Athletics - 77 -Anatomy -Competition (×15) -Coordination (×2) -Endurance (×5) -Escape Artist -Famous Battles -Fish -Flawless Timing (×2) -Intimidation (×2) -Navigation -Passion -Patience -Playfulness -Running (×14) -Swimming (×14) -Willpower -Wrestling (×14) 01. Alan Driscoll Aymeri Couer Carmine Sturzo Cirillo Laziosi 05. Corradin d'Alfi Cosetta Re Cyrus Dawes Eduard Solov'ev Els Rottmundyn 10. Grainne Inneith Gwendy Zuyder Irene Oxina Isabeau Glorieux Joana Lio y Rossollo 15. Katja Quinnecht Lambert Cobo Llarina de Avuel Louise Kandinsky Luti Jaconelli 20. Marc Sury Miya Hikari Neso Ulleri Noemia Falcon y Paredes Oriabel Sidot 25. Philippe Marchant Raoul Leconte Reitz von Lutersee Silke Niederstatter Vettor Conta 30. Vincent Eins Vrenelle Bonvin Vuillaume Eparvier Zorzi Galea --- Botany - 77 -Agriculture (×13) -Birds (×2) -Chemistry -Courtly Fashion -Decipher Handwriting -Flowers (×13) -Greengrocery (×2) -Illustration (×3) -Ink Compounds -Library Knowledge (×2) -Observation (×2) -Palettes -Perfumes -Poisons (×2) -Recipes -Roots (×14) -Seeds (×16) -Worms 01. Ana Flavia Bessa Asmita Tidar Avgust Kostrodyrets Beatrix von Wetgen 05. Cinzia Ammacapani Corradin d'Alfi Durand de Thiomines Eliana Carosi Emilia Picotti 10. Flore Yveuillet Girars de Periarde Grainne Inneith Honors Plafox Jere Niemela 15. Katja Quinnecht Kurt Henning Lambert Cobo Louise Kandinsky Magsa Nembo 20. Mairgrete Strakley Montague Ruffo Neta Xemutre Piccolet Gleyre Prudence Cossins 25. Rikildis von Kiep Rixenda la Serena Rui da Casga Sheary Warrington Tacito Viadana 30. Tulia Faspalla Uliva Valaresso Vincent Warrender Vrenelle Bonvin --- Calligraphy - 76 -Alchemical Tools -Analyse -Anatomy -Art Appreciation (×2) -Birds -Chemistry -Flowers -Forms (×17) -Illustration (×13) -Ink Compounds (×14) -Library Knowledge (×3) -Mammals -Memorization -Orthography (×16) -Painting -Patience (×2) 01. Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Aveline Cincebeaux Aymeri Couer Basia Rydz 05. Carmine Sturzo Catherine Chard Courtenay de Surval Els Rottmundyn Emilia Picotti 10. Emilia Strolin Everwine von Zoedorf Grainne Inneith Hector Per Vittoria Joana Lio y Rossollo 15. Kurt Henning Magalda Quaranta Malacresta Vercesi Milena di Montors Miya Hikari 20. Montague Ruffo Noemia Falcon y Paredes Philip Hauck Raoul Leconte Rikildis von Kiep 25. Rixenda la Serena Sigalis du Sonmeil Tabin Furenzti Vrenelle Bonvin --- Dialectic - 58 -Civil Law -Conversation -Criminal Law -Debate -Famous Dilemmas (×15) -Famous Speeches (×2) -First Principles (×13) -Logic (×15) -Puzzles -Reason (×3) -Semantics -Storytelling -Temperance -The Middle Empire -Wit 01. Aaran Ledale Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Cante Caviti Cordelia Troublepot 05. Corradin d'Alfi Cosetta Re Durand de Thiomines Eliana Carosi Emilia Strolin 10. Everwine von Zoedorf Flore Yveuillet Honors Plafox Jere Niemela Kurt Henning 15. Lambert Cobo Leopold Rassent Luti Jaconelli Magsa Nembo Malacresta Vercesi 20. Malthezar Mhadi Marc Sury Milena di Montors Olivia Solari Piccolet Gleyre 25. Prudence Cossins Rikildis von Kiep Sheary Warrington Sigalis du Sonmeil Sima Venesico 30. Tulia Faspalla Vincent Warrender --- Enchant - 59 -Carpentry -Concentration -Glamour Spells -Ink Compounds -Jeweler -Library Knowledge -Materials Knowledge (×12) -Memorization (×2) -Music Theory -Observation (×2) -Painting -Palettes (×15) -Roots -The History of Magic (×2) -Theology -Theory of Enchantment (×15) -Theory of Incantation 01. Alan Driscoll Amada Kiffer Asmita Tidar Ausdauer Mollers 05. Avgust Kostrodyrets Aymeri Couer Cante Caviti Caspar Pfeuffer Catherine Chard 10. Cinzia Ammacapani Cordelia Troublepot Corradin d'Alfi Eduard Solov'ev Everwine von Zoedorf 15. Herbert Downes Honors Plafox Joana Lio y Rossollo Louise Kandinsky Magalda Quaranta 20. Marc Sury Noemia Falcon y Paredes Philip Hauck Rixenda la Serena Rui da Casga 25. Sheary Warrington Tabin Furenzti Uliva Valaresso Vincent Eins Vuillaume Eparvier --- Geometry - 56 -Applications of Arithmetic -Cartography -Duelling Circles -Famous Battles -Famous Geometry Problems (×15) -Geometric Laws (×16) -Knots -Memorization -Moons -Planets -Stars -Trigonometry (×16) 01. Aaran Ledale Alan Driscoll Ana Flavia Bessa Avgust Kostrodyrets 05. Basia Rydz Beatrix von Wetgen Caspar Pfeuffer Cinzia Ammacapani Cordelia Troublepot 10. Cosetta Re Courtenay de Surval Cyrus Dawes Emilia Picotti Flore Yveuillet 15. Gwendy Zuyder Hector Per Vittoria Irene Oxina Isabeau Glorieux Malacresta Vercesi 20. Olivia Solari Oriabel Sidot Rui da Casga Sima Venesico Tabin Furenzti 25. Tacito Viadana Vettor Conta --- Glamour - 75 -Art Appreciation (×2) -Concentration -Cosmetics -Court Hairstyles -Courtly Fashion -Ethics -Forms -Glamour Methods (×14) -Glamour Phemes (×16) -Glamour Spells (×14) -Observation (×2) -Painting -Playfulness -Practical Jokes -Satyric Revelry -The History of Magic -The Middle Empire -Theory of Glamour (×14) -Theory of Negation 01. Aaran Ledale Ausdauer Mollers Aymeri Couer Cyrus Dawes 05. Eduard Solov'ev Eliana Carosi Els Rottmundyn Emilia Picotti Everwine von Zoedorf 10. Grainne Inneith Gwendy Zuyder Herbert Downes Isabeau Glorieux Iustus Venture 15. Jere Niemela Leopold Rassent Llarina de Avuel Mairgrete Strakley Milena di Montors 20. Montague Ruffo Neta Xemutre Olivia Solari Reitz von Lutersee Rixenda la Serena 25. Rui da Casga Sheary Warrington Sigalis du Sonmeil Silke Niederstatter Sima Venesico 30. Tacito Viadana Vettor Conta Zoe Melis Zorzi Galea --- Grammar - 80 -Bluff -Comets -Etiquette -Famous Battles -Famous Poetry (×16) -Famous Prose (×15) -Famous Speeches -Flirting -Innuendo -Memorization -Oratory -Reason -Romance -Semantics (×16) -Storytelling -Syntax (×14) -The Exile -The Second Captivity -Theatre -Theory of Astrology -Wit (×2) 01. Asmita Tidar Ausdauer Mollers Cirillo Laziosi Cosetta Re 05. Eduard Solov'ev Els Rottmundyn Emilia Strolin Girars de Periarde Hector Per Vittoria 10. Herbert Downes Honors Plafox Isabeau Glorieux Iustus Venture Jere Niemela 15. Leopold Rassent Magalda Quaranta Marc Sury Milena di Montors Miya Hikari 20. Neso Ulleri Neta Xemutre Philip Hauck Prudence Cossins Raoul Leconte 25. Reitz von Lutersee Rikildis von Kiep Rui da Casga Sigalis du Sonmeil Sima Venesico 30. Tacito Viadana Tulia Faspalla Uliva Valaresso Vuillaume Eparvier Zoe Melis --- History - 79 -Agriculture -Anthropology (×2) -Archaeology (×2) -Architecture -Art Appreciation -Bookbinding -Comets -Courtly Fashion -Decipher Handwriting -Ethics -Famous Speeches -Forms -Notation -The Calamities (×17) -The Early Empire (×15) -The History of Magic (×16) -The Middle Empire (×14) -Theology (×2) 01. Aaran Ledale Alan Driscoll Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Aveline Cincebeaux 05. Avgust Kostrodyrets Aymeri Couer Basia Rydz Carmine Sturzo Catherine Chard 10. Courtenay de Surval Durand de Thiomines Emilia Strolin Grainne Inneith Iustus Venture 15. Malacresta Vercesi Malthezar Mhadi Milena di Montors Montague Ruffo Oriabel Sidot 20. Raoul Leconte Rikildis von Kiep Rixenda la Serena Tabin Furenzti Vettor Conta 25. Vincent Eins Vincent Warrender Vrenelle Bonvin Zoe Melis --- Incantation - 75 -Composure -Coordination -Danger Sense -Diction -Drafting -First Principles -Flawless Timing -Forms -Incantation Methods (×15) -Incantation Phemes (×15) -Incantation Spells (×15) -Materials Knowledge -Mimicry -Observation -Patience -The History of Magic -Theory of Incantation (×16) -Theory of Revision 01. Alan Driscoll Aveline Cincebeaux Beatrix von Wetgen Carmine Sturzo 05. Caspar Pfeuffer Cirillo Laziosi Cordelia Troublepot Cosetta Re Durand de Thiomines 10. Emilia Strolin Gwendy Zuyder Hector Per Vittoria Irene Oxina Iustus Venture 15. Katja Quinnecht Kurt Henning Llarina de Avuel Luti Jaconelli Malthezar Mhadi 20. Milena di Montors Miya Hikari Neso Ulleri Noemia Falcon y Paredes Philip Hauck 25. Piccolet Gleyre Reitz von Lutersee Silke Niederstatter Vincent Eins Vincent Warrender 30. Vuillaume Eparvier Zoe Melis Zorzi Galea --- Music - 61 -Composure -Decipher Handwriting -Diction -Famous Songs (×16) -Forms (×2) -Ink Compounds -Intimidation -Listen (×2) -Mimicry (×2) -Notation (×13) -Oratory -Prayer -Revision Spells -Tease -Theatre -Voice (×15) -Wit 01. Alan Driscoll Amada Kiffer Aveline Cincebeaux Cante Caviti 05. Cinzia Ammacapani Cirillo Laziosi Cordelia Troublepot Courtenay de Surval Cyrus Dawes 10. Emilia Picotti Flore Yveuillet Grainne Inneith Herbert Downes Katja Quinnecht 15. Leopold Rassent Llarina de Avuel Luti Jaconelli Magsa Nembo Mairgrete Strakley 20. Malthezar Mhadi Miya Hikari Neso Ulleri Noemia Falcon y Paredes Oriabel Sidot 25. Piccolet Gleyre Rikildis von Kiep Silke Niederstatter Vincent Eins Vuillaume Eparvier 30. Zorzi Galea --- Negation - 77 -Concentration -Danger Sense -Diction -Ethics -First Principles -Flawless Timing -Forms -Incantation Phemes -Magical Appraisal -Negation Methods (×15) -Negation Phemes (×17) -Negation Spells (×15) -Observation -Palettes -Phemes -The History of Magic -Theory of Enchantment -Theory of Glamour -Theory of Negation (×15) 01. Aaran Ledale Ana Flavia Bessa Asmita Tidar Aveline Cincebeaux 05. Basia Rydz Carmine Sturzo Catherine Chard Corradin d'Alfi Durand de Thiomines 10. Els Rottmundyn Flore Yveuillet Girars de Periarde Honors Plafox Irene Oxina 15. Jere Niemela Kurt Henning Lambert Cobo Magalda Quaranta Magsa Nembo 20. Oriabel Sidot Philippe Marchant Piccolet Gleyre Prudence Cossins Sheary Warrington 25. Sigalis du Sonmeil Silke Niederstatter Tacito Viadana Tulia Faspalla Vincent Warrender --- Revision - 75 -Anatomy -Artisan -Concentration -Danger Sense -Duelling Circles -Endurance -Ethics -Forms -Glamour Phemes -Incantation Methods -Materials Knowledge -Revision Methods (×15) -Revision Phemes (×16) -Revision Spells (×16) -The History of Magic -Theory of Negation -Theory of Revision (×14) -Wit 01. Amada Kiffer Ana Flavia Bessa Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Basia Rydz 05. Beatrix von Wetgen Cante Caviti Durand de Thiomines Eliana Carosi Girars de Periarde 10. Gwendy Zuyder Herbert Downes Irene Oxina Isabeau Glorieux Iustus Venture 15. Joana Lio y Rossollo Kurt Henning Leopold Rassent Louise Kandinsky Luti Jaconelli 20. Mairgrete Strakley Malthezar Mhadi Marc Sury Montague Ruffo Neta Xemutre 25. Philippe Marchant Raoul Leconte Sima Venesico Tabin Furenzti Tulia Faspalla 30. Uliva Valaresso Vettor Conta Zorzi Galea --- Rhetoric - 62 -Acting -Character (×15) -Command -Competition -Composure -Confidence (×14) -Debate (×2) -Dedication -Ethics -Etiquette -Famous Speeches (×13) -Flawless Timing -Innuendo -Oratory (×2) -Passion -Patience (×2) -Persuasion -Theatre -Theology -Wit 01. Amada Kiffer Antonio de Reyez e Irizarry-Vargas Ausdauer Mollers Aveline Cincebeaux 05. Aymeri Couer Carmine Sturzo Caspar Pfeuffer Catherine Chard Cinzia Ammacapani 10. Cyrus Dawes Eduard Solov'ev Els Rottmundyn Girars de Periarde Herbert Downes 15. Honors Plafox Isabeau Glorieux Iustus Venture Jere Niemela Lambert Cobo 20. Leopold Rassent Luti Jaconelli Mairgrete Strakley Miya Hikari Neta Xemutre 25. Prudence Cossins Reitz von Lutersee Sigalis du Sonmeil Silke Niederstatter Sima Venesico 30. Tacito Viadana Tulia Faspalla Zoe Melis --- Zoology - 58 -Anatomy -Animal Husbandry -Biology -Birds (×15) -Conceal (×2) -Dance -Illustration (×2) -Insects (×15) -Library Knowledge (×2) -Mammals (×15) -Painting -Practical Jokes -Seeds 01. Amada Kiffer Ana Flavia Bessa Ausdauer Mollers Beatrix von Wetgen 05. Cante Caviti Caspar Pfeuffer Cirillo Laziosi Eliana Carosi Everwine von Zoedorf 10. Girars de Periarde Hector Per Vittoria Joana Lio y Rossollo Katja Quinnecht Lambert Cobo 15. Llarina de Avuel Louise Kandinsky Magalda Quaranta Magsa Nembo Mairgrete Strakley 20. Malthezar Mhadi Montague Ruffo Noemia Falcon y Paredes Olivia Solari Philippe Marchant 25. Piccolet Gleyre Raoul Leconte Uliva Valaresso Vettor Conta Vrenelle Bonvin 30. Zoe Melis Zorzi Galea Class skill steps taken from the DLC 15 mod base, attendance lists taken from...either DLC 16 or 17 ingame, I don't recall. In any case everything should still be accurate in patched DLC 17. Errors on my part aside. Maybe not as wield-y as Schwarzbart's table, but if you need it in .txt format for whatever reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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