Adrian Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Haha! Take it as a compliment Creme, we 'could' have been writers - but we are just too social to hold the position Speaking of which I still have one I'm only 10% done with... damnitalltohell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Can't Negation also manipulate the movment of other objects and so get close to what we call Telekinesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Schwarzbart; It can, yes, but it's more difficult than Incantation or Revision. On that note, Glamour can also do it, but about as well as Negation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 It can, yes, but it's more difficult than Incantation or Revision. On that note, Glamour can also do it, but about as well as Negation. So technically, any magic can do anything as long as you are Extremely creative with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 And you are powerful enough, that's *probably* true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I like glamours with a liberal application of real fire - it just kindda works out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CremePudding Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Leoshi, I WILL GET YOU Yeah, as long as you go by the rule of "the end justifies the mean", any result is possible with any magic. You can even cook with Gates Of course, if your definition is even looser, you can always go "Mastery can do anything, just make somebody else cast the spell", but I imagine it is not very good for stuff like wilderness survival where there's a glaring lack of stuff to control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHatt Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Of course, if your definition is even looser, you can always go "Mastery can do anything, just make somebody else cast the spell", but I imagine it is not very good for stuff like wilderness survival where there's a glaring lack of stuff to control. I don't know about that...could you Master plants? Bugs? Birds? Squirrels? I wish we could see more of the creative Gate uses. Could we make our own animal, if in later years? (I want to make Falcor! Now there's a dragon I can cuddle to) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 MadHatt; It is possible to Master anything that thinks, but their effectiveness is very limited. Except for [spoilers, spoilers,] You cannot make an animal per se, but you could summon something very like to what you imagine via Gates. There are of course [spoilers, spoilers], which could do what you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 You told us once that Mastery also can do Healing are this "spoilers" related to this ability to mend the body or have you talked then only about healing of the mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Schwarzbart; For that, healing of the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ok then I was wrong about this *sigh* but wasn't there also something about Necromancy in Mastery? I think at last the spirit part of Necromancy would fit into the definition of Mastery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Schwarzbart; You are somewhat correct. Necromancy is a hybrid of several of the Pillars, and Mastery is definitely one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikka Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm imagining Mastery could be of great use to a healer who needs to concentrate on the body, though, due to it being a very easy way to knock someone out in an emergency situation (I'm sure there are potions that can be made to simulate something near anesthesia and of course drugs that could be used to knock someone out, as well as glamours to keep them in a relaxed state, but I imagine if you need someone out for emergency on-site first-aid, Mastery can't be beat for that). Similarly, the mind-to-mind communication possible with Mastery could make dealing with someone in horrendous pain easier (they may be too much in pain to talk, or unconscious from the pain), as well as those you can't communicate with (familiars without speech or their master nearby, very young children, those who you don't share a language with...), or simply the uneducated (I have a pain in my stomach! / Er, that's your intestines, actually... oh, shoot, let me figure out what exactly the problem is by getting in your mind and seeing what your nerves say). Am I correct that Mastery could be used for all that? ...I imagine that's a slippery path, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Mastery has a wide number of healing uses, too- removing (shorter term) addictions, numbing pain, easing mental distress. But it's all a slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoshi Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 The moment I ask about telekinesis magic (Noemia Student Event 1) and everyone starts pouring in. Weird. On a side note, are there any spells that protect you from angry puddings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I wonder whant will hapen when a powerfull Negation caster decided to complet negate a other person. Will existence of this person get erased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Schwarzbart; Curiously, although there is a lot of theory on this subject, no record of anyone trying it remains... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I was doing my laundry while phasing out, slightly dreaming of just enchanting my clothes once to not having to wash it or watch in dismay as my boxers gets more and more worn and my lovely warm blouses gets smaller and smaller - and it got me thinking. How often would a normal first year have to re-enchant/enspell their clothing to stop the wear-tear and grime that school life would otherwise inflict upon it? (or just 'how long would such an enchant last') I had this weird thought that due to the slightly newbness of our mages they might actually end up (in the first year if nothing else) spending more time on enchanting the clothing than they would cleaning and fixing through other means. And how long does a spell cast take? Getting the items, setting everything up, making a border, palette, phemes do the actual casting.. I realize that some spells (attack spells) would have to be quick, but usually they aren't all they complex. Now preventing all kinds of dirt and grime, small tears and stop shrinking... I imagine that this might take longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Adrian; Not too long- a few hours, and it probably would last (at the first year level) a few days- perhaps even a week. As you refine your magical skills, of course, this enchantment could last longer and longer. And maybe you'd add a warming enchantment, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Admittedly, a warming enchantment is something I would be willing to spend a few hours doing in real life, even if it had to be done each week! Brr so cold these days... where is this global warming I hear so much about?! (J/K) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikka Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 A distant thought: is there anyway to fly with Glamour and Mastery? I know you can do it easily enough with Negation (negate the law of gravity for fun and profit!), and it seems easy enough with Incantation (manipulating air and wind currents to lift yourself). I am guessing that very high level (beyond year one, certainly) Revision is probably a key o shapshifting, and you could always revise something in to an airship (though that's probably also in the beyond year one factoid, though if you started with a large cart, it may be doable). Enchant probably would require some knowledge of the other fields for easy uses (such as enchanting robes with a flying spell, like I believe you can do for Zorzi), but I guess they can make themselves some sort of propeller based flying machine with enough forge-work. Gates, of course, you summon your huge flying bird-animal of doom. I can't come up with any way to fly with Glamour or Mastery, though. Is there one? Certainly, you can make people think you're flying, but I can't figure out how to do actual flight. Strategy games- are they popular in Mineta? Does the Academagia setting have some magical crazy strategy game, like Exalted's Gateway? Or do people play Chess? Have Go and Mahjong made it to Mineta, or would they even exist in this sort of setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legate of Mineta Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Glamour yes, although it's difficult- you could 'seem' to have wings, or even give an object the ability to fly. Mastery, however, can't be done- you could, I suppose, Master a mage to help you fly. Go has made it- you'll have to speak to Schwarzbart about that one. Otherwise, Chess, and a few other parlor games. And BattleMace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzbart Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yea I get this broad hint (not sure if I use the translation of a phrase here right) to continue with my Adventure writing ^^. I will try to find time to fill the still missing blanks. @Mikka there is a event where a Prof play with a student Chess short bevore the class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyaa Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mastery, however, can't be done- you could, I suppose, Master a mage to help you fly. As a creative and powerful example, how about using the knowledge of Anatomy + Biology + Bird to force your own brain to genetically grow your body a wing (slowly) or stab two large wings onto the body and force the brain to integrate it as part of the body. Probably need Neurology skill in both case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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